David Leonhardt has been reading FemiSex

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Last week FemiSex wrote this:

I have said for a long time—way back to the early 90s: tax our health care benefits, and use that money to insure all players. Buying a private plan for you or your family must be reasonable in price! Yes, mandate coverage, and subsidize it for those who are too poor. This is a massive part of the fix.

Oh hear us centrists, please. A small easily digested bill. NO public “option.” Tax our benefits—a surefire way to keep spending in check and the only Fair way to treat Americans who work for themselves.

This week it seems as though David Leonhardt is starting to understand this:

If Congress taxes health care, the revenue has a chance of rising with health spending. A health tax will also create an incentive for workers and businesses to slow the growth of health spending — thus reducing the amount of taxes needed to pay the nation’s health bill.

Remember how the press savaged G.W. for suggesting part of the fix was to get consumers to consume less health care? Son of a Nasty, he was, said the press for suggesting that the peeps had any role in this big spending mess that is health care. But Obama says it and suddenly the thought glows golden. When Obama says it David Leonhardt doesn’t have a fit of “why I’ve never” foot-stamping SkipGatesian outrage and instead admits that Americans are part of the problem.

The games the media plays.

This site is adamant against a public plan for many reasons—not the least of which is long-term sustainability.
Also, and this is a biggy:
Americans deserve better than to be hoodwinked into socialized care. If we are to get socialized medicine we ought be told by Obama that this is his ultimate goal—a Public Socialized Plan. If as a whole, Americans want this that is a different story. But to trick us, to lie to us and say the only sacrifice his gutting of Heath Care as we know it will require of Americans is having to “give up paying for things that don’t make them healthier.”

That, my friends, is the Mother of All Political Lies!!!!

Economists are coming out of the woodwork saying we have no way to pay for Obama's HC plan....and that is now, with the population as it currently stands and works.
I hated that Bush spent like a drunken sailor with not a plan to pay for it; I hate it more so when one of my own party spends like 20 drunken sailors and lies just as glibly, if not more so about the utlimate costs!

California has been a lesson to Americans for years, leading the way with the Clean Air Act and smoking bans and many other forward thinking ideas. But as its population has shifted so has its ability to sustain many of its generous social programs. It all sounds great until the mortgage is more than a population can support.
Social Security worked like a charm when for every elder collecting, 13 workers were paying into the system. Then we all started to live a lot longer and demographics shifted and lookie what happened. The great social program is wilting. Stuff happens, but I expect smart people to plan for such stuff, not lie to us about what the future will cost us.

I see no reason to set America on a collision course with failure. This site firmly feels that taxing health benefits is the best way to keep people vigilant on expenditures and will not give us a gimme mentality that Obama is setting up. Gimme from the Rich, no sacrifice by me. Such a mentality surely will weaken the fabric of this country. Of that I feel very certain.

Comments

Sometimes feminists are so

Sometimes feminists are so intent on female go girl cheerleading they forget to think about longterm policy issues. No so here, good job. If the economy tanks in 10 years under the burden of American "underwater" on what it owe vs what it can pay, women willl sufffer greatly.

sorry, here is the

sorry, here is the link:
http://www.nytimes.com/2009/08/01/us/politics/01taxes.html?ref=politics

That position, [taxing the few to pay for the many] analysts predict, cannot hold over time.

“There is no way we can pay for health care and the rest of the Obama agenda, plus get our long-term deficits under control, simply by raising taxes on the wealthy,” said Isabel V. Sawhill, a former Clinton administration budget official. “The middle class is going to have to contribute as well.”

agreed. Obama wants to ask a

agreed. Obama wants to ask a tiny few to pay for health care for all? Creepy and un-American. If this country is going to survive we all must pay to play. Bernie Madoff was one of the tiny fraction who we'd be dependent upon. Creepy.
From the New York Times=

Mr. Burman and others recall that in the creation of Social Security and Medicare, Presidents Franklin D. Roosevelt and Lyndon B. Johnson insisted that beneficiaries contribute through payroll taxes, both to finance the programs and to give all Americans a vested interest. The same philosophy should apply to seeking universal health coverage, they say.

“This idea that everything new that government provides ought to be paid for by the top 5 percent, that’s a basically unstable way of governing,” Mr. Burman said.

Centrist McCain was correct

Centrist McCain was correct to suggest such a tax. If we are going to make meaningful reforms we have to find a way to pay. Obama is a chicken liver who knows eventually the only way to pay is to tax heath bennys. I don't like his dishonesty. And I don't want to become beholden to the rich for my health care. That feels weird, too weird. We are all going to have to take our medicine on this.

O-trauma will never do this.

O-trauma will never do this.
He told America HE will not raise taxes on the middle class. He knows his policies will inevitably lead to large tax hikes on the middle class and upper middle class, but he wants to leave that to the person who takes the helm in 2016. Obama is like a circus trickster, say one thing do another.

How great if in 2012 a democratic woman took the nomination away from O-trauma! We need honesty in the Oval Office. 8 yrs of Bushes confabulations and now 4 of Obama's. yeeeek.

I see no reason to set

I see no reason to set America on a collision course with failure.

Obama talked about the middle class during the campaign, but the middle class is going to have to pay a much higher rate of taxes post Obama. He is just like Bush, wanting to pass it along to the next president, no pain for himself.

You are correct. If Americans want universal health care, we need to be told the truth of how much it will cost and be willing to admit it WILL be a middle class tax burden. Obamai is a coward for not having the guts to tell us up front we will all need to pay for this and that the way care is delivered will dramatically change under his vision.

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