Katha Pollitt of "The Nation" celebrates Hillary's loss to ObamaMonday, February 22, 2010 at 11:53 pm — admin
"I'm still glad I supported Obama over Hillary Clinton,” says Katha Pollitt, the token female writer at The Nation as well as airhead extraordinaire and slave to patriarchy. Why exactly is she glad about her devotional attendance to her master Obama? Because—and kids, I kid you not on this one!—because…if Hillary had won, media types would have said mean things about Hillary. REALLY. Folks, it just don’t getin’ anynin’ more stupidn’ than this! AS IF, the media hadn’t already savaged Hillary in 2008. Silly girl Pollitt actually wrote these words:
Do Katha not, never, can’t ever recall the sexist female-hating things the misogynistic press threw at Hillary for the entire campaign of 2008? EVERY SINGLE DAY! Does Missy Katha honestly say to readers…gee whiz whilikers I hope no damn woman ever gits to beez POTUS cause those mean media types will say hateful things about women. This Katha nimwit--who REALLY ought be writing for Feministing and living with Courtney Martin--actually said:
Oh yes she did, she actully wrote those words! Katha Pollitt couldn’t fight her way out of a paper bag! This is HER answer to why women should not …naahhh, no way, be president. Because women like herself will always support man over woman. Katha assumes that Hillary would have failed just as largely as the EMPTY Suit that is Obama. Assuming that a Hillary presidency would have been marked by the dismal performance of Obama, Missy Katha says:
So give the hell up, women. Voting for men is all you are good for. Just ask Katha. |
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Katha is completely illogical
Katha is completely illogical and I'm glad some of the comments over at the Nation called her out. Very typical of someone who'd blame the other woman and not the married man for an affair (see: her book Learning to Drive).
As a Clinton supporter who voted for McCain, I have a lot of female friends an family who were (some still are) Obama supporters. To be fair, but more importantly, let's be honest, to avoid antagonizing them, I've always said magnanimously "I respect that they could have substantive reasons for this choice."
I've come to the conclusion that this is, quite simply, bullshit. The only substantive difference is the perceived war position, and Obama himself admits he wasn't in Congress when he said he didn't support the war, and that shortly afterwards, his position on the war mirrored GWB's. Anyone who really cared, and researched that issue, would have figured that out.
Nope: the women who voted for the first-term Senator, who began campaigning shortly after his first few weeks in position (going back on his claim he wouldn't do this), did it for the same reason Katha pens her idiocy. To be on the "hip" side with all the cool liberals, siding with a sexier cause than that of women.
Somehow, "at least you can't blame this on a woman" is OK when it excuses you from having to vote for one. But at all other times, apparently Katha was all too ready to blame the woman. Logic doesn't quite hold together -- shocker!
This cartoon is the perfect
This cartoon is the perfect exemplification of third wave feminists like Naomi Wolf and Jessica Something at Feministing and all the other hoary types like Pollitt. They dropped their knickers for Obama and if Obama had not come about they would have queued up for Edwards. It is truly unnerving to see this garbled piece from Katha. Is this all women are allowed to publish? Rubbish and bullocks?
Huge topic! HUGE. I get why
Huge topic! HUGE. I get why Janis feels as she does, because I have to live amongst women in their 30s and 40s who are lonely beyond words for male company, want a family and want sex. Those are very understandable needs but for someone who has the same needs and yet won't play "little miss" to get those needs met it is enough to make me nuts. Because in addition to giving up all that...I must also give up women friendships who feel I'm TOO Shrill when speaking about sexism. For these women, Shrill is any comment at all in the presence of f-able male company.
I also have to deal with women at work who deny sexism not because of sex but to get a paycheck. Life is hard once you see. I sometimes wish I could ignore the all the misogyny from women and men. It is like that old saw, I'm not a lesbian but how easy it would be!
Expressing outrage at women who deny sexism is healthy. Allowing them to infect us with misogyny is not. bout the best i have to offer here. But don't think I'm not guilty. I went through a patch when my anger was as biting as any. then a kind woman said to me: water off a duck's back and build a steam to change the tide. my mum! bless her still evolving soul.
The woman actually offered to buy me a punching bag during the election. I still laugh at this!
Really wonderful discussion.
Really wonderful discussion. Thank you, Janis and Femisex. I've often wondered how enlightened women on the internet handle it all in their private lives. It's very challenging and I am guessing we all have different ways of dealing with misogyny at work, amongst our families, our friends and acquaintances.
I've been struggling with this as of late since I've moved to a small town and I depend on my reputation to a large extent simply to be sure that I will have work. The other day I heard a mom of two boys sitting around at the local library say that "girls are just mean" and then five minutes later a librarian ran the other way when I asked her if they would be putting up a display for women's history month. "I don't know" she answered twice with hostility.
How to handle this? How to handle it when for the most part the majority of women don't seem to mind? Tough stuff.
It's not just Courtney Martin
It's not just Courtney Martin who's terrible at Feministing. Jos blamed Stupak on THE TEA PARTY MOVEMENT!!!
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Obama wanted the Senate bill all along w/o public option and WITH Nelson.
This is just bewildering.
This is just bewildering. This is a new low in women against women hatred. Because NOTHING in this article makes sense. I just don't understand how a paid journalist could write something like this. And get it published. And that a few other people might agree with her sentiments. Wh-hat?????
Everywhere I go, I see women
Everywhere I go, I see women willingly taking the blue pill. It's like they just gave up. And frankly, I gave up on them. Women as a group get precisely what they think they deserve.
And I mean that "they." I always did the Gloria-Steinem thing and made sure not to use that word, but nowdays? I'm sorry, women are "they" to me. I'm clearly not one. A dickless man is apparently what I am. I just do not get them.
I'm finding it really hard lately to disagree with even that ambulatory turd Glen Beck when he talks about the psychosis that is chickdom. When I see and hear shit like this and worse from women all over, I can't disagree with him. Women are out of their minds.
We can't give up on women.
We can't give up on women. It is a job of winning hearts and minds to the cause that women must start to accept powerful women. Women have been infantalized by the culture they are bombarded with, a culture that yells bit^ch in our ears every time we behave in ways totally human. If we get mad, we are demeaned, if we want power we are demeaned, it we are not exactly what another woman has in mind for what all women should be like, we are demeaned. We are taught to think that women must be at odds with other women.
It overwhelms me every time I think about the task at hand. But take heart. In the past. a few brave female souls changed the world for the better, even as women in the majority didn't care or know enough to care. This is a job, every day. To make women see the disrespect they are given and give to each other and then to make them care about it. This little ol' blog just might be a small part of the engine that could. If they read it, they will come. Who knows maybe....
I can tell you, though that by simply speaking out in my life to other women about the terrible thing the B word is and the damage it does, has changed the behaviour of my friends, both male and female. I have promised NEVER to call a woman a B word, and ask that they pay it forward. Baby steps....right?
Working with women is HARD, big time. Best I can do is show them the respect I want for myself.
Thank you for this. This is
Thank you for this. This is the hardest battle in the world, IMO. Women are brainwashed because we are completely tied into the system. It's a big, giant system and I think of a feminist enlightenment as being a most difficult thing because once you see it the whole world looks entirely different. The world that is your family, your friends, you work, your favorite t.v. shows, your history, etc. That world turns upside down.
I have compassion for women who cannot "see" what is happening. I don't know what is the best strategy to help other women gain vision but you are right. A movement does not need everyone involved. Their are plenty of women who could have cared less about gaining the right to vote but look what Alice Paul, Lucy Burns and Susan B accomplished! A few good women (and men) can change life for all of us and bring all of us toward equality.
I've seen too many of them go
I've seen too many of them go backwards the minute they realize they won't get a huzzbin unless they start cutting slack for men.
And if they are going to spend their lives cutting slack for men, then goddamn it, the last thing they're going to do is cut slack for just one more worthless BITCH stuck in the mud alongside them.
Women get what women think they deserve. No more compassion. I've seen too much backward motion, and not just one generation to another, I'm talking individual women who started off perfectly willing to ask these questions and made the personal choice not to care about it after they hit their 30s and 40s and found out that Boys Won't Fuck Them. If they're prioritizing their meat injections over their rights, then they deserve what they get. It's been a million years that women have been trash and filth and the mule of the world. A million years, and it's always someone else's fault? GMAFB.
I no longer waste compassion on people who can change their situation and make the conscious decision not to. I no longer care about creatures who will make the willing choice to stay in a pile of shit ebcause it's so satisfying to watch that other bitch up to her neck in shit. No more. Women aren't worth it. (Men have NEVER been worth it.)
If they want to take the blue pill, go ahead. Don't expect me to celebrate it, don't call it feminist, don't rebrand it as anything other than what it is: each woman's conscious choice to degrade herself to obtain the only thing that matters to her, a penis. Because in the end, all they really are is baby-and-shoe-obsessed bimbos good for only one thing.
Ya know, Janis. Sometimes
Ya know, Janis. Sometimes when I think of the Caucus fraud and the misogyny during the election as well as the hate fest that women are the recipient of everyday I just want to go ballistic. But history tells us that a few can make great change and I have hope for that. I don't have any allusions of Courtney Martin or Katha Pollitt ever gaining a real feminist awakening but I don't think change necessarily depends on them.
Dear god, did I just say hope and change????
At any rate, the women of the New Agenda, the women of Femisex, Violet Socks, PumaPac, Uppity Woman etc. There are many, many great women out there fighting for equality. And my own husband has had an awakening of sorts. He went through the election with me, we have a daughter and he is about as concerned with the anti- women sentiments that are out there as I am.
And personal relationships are very complex. I have many Obama supporting friends, I have friends who do not see the misogyny in Family Guy, I have family members that I've had to educate on the meaning of the word "bitch" and yet... they are still my family and friends. And I do believe people can change. It takes time and it takes a steadfast delivery of the message. I'm very curious to see where this 4th wave takes us....
Pollitt is unbelievable! It
Pollitt is unbelievable! It doesn't get dumber than this.
Talk about Obama remorse!
Talk about Obama remorse! See below from an interview with Colin Powell http://www.cbsnews.com/htdocs/pdf/FTN_022110.pdf and read between the lines to imagine what he was thinking while he was spouting this nonsense:
BOB SCHIEFFER: General, you do bring a unique perspective to this. You're a Republican but you have held highlevel positions under both Republicans and Democrats. And when you announced that you were voting for Barack Obama in 2008, it really got the nation's attention. Here's part of what you said.
COLIN POWELL (Former Secretary of State) (Meet the Press, October 19, 2008): Because of his ability to inspire, because of the inclusive nature of his campaign, because he is reaching out all across America, he has both style and substance, he has met the standard of being a
successful President, being an exceptional President. (Did I really SAY all that shit - that was as bad as the UN! What on earth was I thinking?)
BOB SCHIEFFER: That's what you said. Now Barack Obama, who came to Washington, promised to change things, not much has changed. The Congress is in a mess right now and in total gridlock. His critics are having a field day. Any regrets about endorsing Barack Obama?
COLIN POWELL: None whatsoever. (what do you think I am, nuts? to say on national TV that I was WRONG? Like I was at the UN? Get a grip, Schieffer!) I think it was the right choice when the nation voted for him by almost a ten million percent majority. (10 million PERCENT? Oh my! Shouldn't have had that last scotch in the Green Room!) And he has done some things that I think have helped the country a great deal. (Don't ask me to list them because you know and I know he hasn't done squat and frankly I haven't a clue what he's been up to in the White House!). Let's remember, at the time of the election the United States was falling into a recession, our financial system was collapsing. We were in deep trouble. (and what we needed was a REAL president, so now I feel like an IDIOT, going on about his ability to inspire, inclusive campaign, style and substance, reaching out all across America and how he met the standard of being a successful, exceptional president? Was I on speed again?). And as a result of some actions that President Bush took with the TARP Program before he left (OK, so I'm still toadying up to Bush, but the Republicans are making a comeback) and what President Obama has done (and it wasn't that TURKEY of a stimulus bill!), our financial situation has stabilized. Our financial institutions are secure now (so between you and me I'm actually thinking of getting back in the market) even though I'm not happy with everything they have done (but as long as they make money for me, who cares?). And now, his job (and boy is he screwing it up!) has to be to convey to the American people that things are going to get better (at the rate Obama's going, maybe in the next century!). And slowly (you can say that again!) but surely we're starting to see the kind of improvement the American people wanted and voted him in for (OK, that bit is really RIDICULOUS but after all I'm a MAN and a GENERAL and I've got gravitas and military medals, so what?). Unemployment, I hope, is still on the way to stabilizing (let's all whistle past the graveyard on THAT one) and then dropping (sure it took $787 billion to make it drop ONE percent, but it dropped, didn't it?). We need to see the credit markets opened up (I heard that on Bloomberg the other day but don't you dare ask me what it means). And we need to see our economy start to function again (we've been waiting a whole year for that, by God; what the Sam Hill is Obama DOING in the White House besides date nights and playing golf?). It's going to take time (and probably a new president) for all of that to happen. (There! I've answered your dumb question, Schieffer, now back off! What do you want from me? I'm black and I'm proud; I voted for my homie and I'd do it again. But nobody better not ask me to go back to that UN again, OK?).
If Hillary or Sarah Palin had said all this crap on television, the MSM would have destroyed them for being stupid, empty-headed women! So maybe Katha is right - we should vote for men and spare ourselves the humiliation!
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